1/48 F-35B Coming Soon From Kittyhawk!

[Sabre Freak]

http://www.cybermodeler.com/news/kitty.shtml

[Sparkchaser]

Who is this kitty hawk co? The picture looks nice

[Sabre Freak]

This is their second release, first was an F-94C

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2012...wk-models.html

Looks like their "rep" posts on ARC:

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/foru...post&p=2374521

Not sure if he just "reps" both Panda and Kittyhawk or if they are somehow associated.

[Viper Enforcer]

The rendering looks quite chunky compared to the real jet and is too simplified to tell if its going to be well detailed or accurate. Will definitely need to see the plastic on this one before making a sound call, so nothing to be excited about yet.

Kind of funny they're calling is a "Jump Jet",

[Skull Leader]

I called him out on ARC... as you can see I was pretty much ignored. Big surprise there.

[TANK]

Originally Posted by Sabre Freak

This is their second release, first was an F-94C

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2012...wk-models.html

Looks like their "rep" posts on ARC:

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/foru...post&p=2374521

Not sure if he just "reps" both Panda and Kittyhawk or if they are somehow associated.

I don't know of any link between the two companies outside of Glen being a Rep for each one.

[TANK]

I don't understand the hate. Currently the F-94 plastic AFAIK looks pretty good. No reason to this point to think the F-35 would be any different. I look forward to seeing the plastic.

@Skullleader- Glen has not re-posted on many forums after the intentional post, so I won't look to hard into he hasn't responded.

Also if that is what they want to spend there money so what. I doubt you will get an answer to some of the questions as they seem to me to appear to be propriety information.

I am happy it is not another new or copy of the usual players P-51/Me-109 type aircraft.

Since Kittyhawks website has Harriers for photo place holders I look forward to seeing if they would release one.

[Sabre Freak]

Originally Posted by TANK

I don't understand the hate. Currently the F-94 plastic AFAIK looks pretty good. No reason to this point to think the F-35 would be any different. I look forward to seeing the plastic.

@Skullleader- Glen has not re-posted on many forums after the intentional post, so I won't look to hard into he hasn't responded.

Also if that is what they want to spend there money so what. I doubt you will get an answer to some of the questions as they seem to me to appear to be propriety information.

I am happy it is not another new or copy of the usual players P-51/Me-109 type aircraft.

Since Kittyhawks website has Harriers for photo place holders I look forward to seeing if they would release one.

I don't see any hate there TANK (here that is)...Viper Enforcer is always grumpy because he hasn't been able to release the F-18 intakes we are all lusting after Or the wheels! and Skull Leader was sufficiently vague...

KittyHawk knocked a great 50's subject that's been ignored till now out of the park on their first go around. Doing an F-35 now is a not wrong, just a "what the heck?" moment.

[adamitri]

My opinion is that a companies decision to push the F-35 out on the market during its test phase is not a wise one. Once he F-35 is fully operational would be better since most or all the airframe changes are done. Again, my opinion and mine alone.

[Sabre Freak]

I thought the test phase was done...

[Viper Enforcer]

Nope, Test Phase/EMD is still going and will be a for few more years. Most of the major structural changes have been made, though there are a few more expected; even more so with the VTOL version. Yeah, not a good time to crank out a kit of F-35, but then again some companies feel the need to get one out there first, even if jumping the gun means future inaccuracies when it comes to the production version.

Originally Posted by Sabre Freak

I don't see any hate there TANK (here that is)...Viper Enforcer is always grumpy because he hasn't been able to release the F-18 intakes we are all lusting after Or the wheels! and Skull Leader was sufficiently vague...

KittyHawk knocked a great 50's subject that's been ignored till now out of the park on their first go around. Doing an F-35 now is a not wrong, just a "what the heck?" moment.

Yeah really, where's the hate

I've seen the F-94 and though it's not a subject I have any interest in, it did look ok from the sample I saw. Not an outstanding or excellent kit, but quite decent; though I do think the PE consoles are pathetic looking.

I have reserved skepticism, especially since I know how limited access there is to that aircraft. Also, that "rendering" is just that and in no way is a gauge to how the kit is going to be. So saying that the "render" looks good isn't saying much. I do hope it's at least ball park accurate, but until I can compare plastic to good refs, not expecting it to be "all that" for now.

Yeah, I've been a bit grumpy about way late releases, but more so as I'm still recovering from a series of back surgeries. Not a fun person to be around at times

[TANK]

Fine, you don't like hate, how about mild discomfort or dislike?

Not so much here but everywhere else it seems like they did not win the PR battle for this kit. A majority of the folks that posted disliked the kit from the rendering and/or asked for something else, either the A or C version or something completely else. Course if they went with the usual P-51ish type model, people would be poo pooing that also.

@Viper Enforcer - as to the PE, I saw in the link SF posted it is not the best. I give them props for trying and better than some other companies that are well established. It reminds me of the early eduard PE before the color stuff has taken off.

[Sabre Freak]

I'm not up on the psychobabble, but I think you might be internalizing a wee bit there TANK.

But yes, when they announced the F-94C, I think the most negative comment was "gee I wish it were a B, but I'm still gettin' one". It was met with a pretty ecstatic reception (at least I though so). While there has been (as you pointed out) plenty of push back on other sites for this airframe

So? It's all good. Market research at it's finest. True, the on-line forums probably represent >< of the scale modeling market as a whole, but it's still market feedback they can heed, or ignore, before cutting steel. No harm done, YMMV.

Good on you if you are looking forward to seeing the plastic, for me it's a yawner. An F-35 would have been my LAST guess for their next project, and not within a 1000 miles of my wishlist. They release this and we are still no closer to a Bronco, Banjo, Fury, F4U-4, UH-34 etc. Still no farther away either.

[Skull Leader]

Originally Posted by TANK

Fine, you don't like hate, how about mild discomfort or dislike?

Not even that really... I mean, any time a new upstart company is making the qwan to crank out a kit no one has seen before is a good thing. Lets call it "apprehension" at worst. I'm excited for them (even if I don't like the 35B), I just want to know if they're gonna produce an accurate product or cut corners like Academy and Hobby Boss does (I know all companies are guilty of this to some degree, but some are definately worse than others)

I can definately see where you are coming from though, so I don't blame you for misconstruing it as hate.

[TANK]

Originally Posted by Sabre Freak

They release this and we are still no closer to a Bronco, Banjo, Fury, F4U-4, UH-34 etc. Still no farther away either.

Italeri is supposed to be doing the H-34 this fall/winter.

[Viper Enforcer]

Originally Posted by TANK

Fine, you don't like hate, how about mild discomfort or dislike?

Not so much here but everywhere else it seems like they did not win the PR battle for this kit. A majority of the folks that posted disliked the kit from the rendering and/or asked for something else, either the A or C version or something completely else. Course if they went with the usual P-51ish type model, people would be poo pooing that also.

@Viper Enforcer - as to the PE, I saw in the link SF posted it is not the best. I give them props for trying and better than some other companies that are well established. It reminds me of the early eduard PE before the color stuff has taken off.

Don't even know where you're getting "dislike" from. Like I said, I am not impressed with an animated rendering, so will be waiting till the plastic is in hand before making a judgment on the overall kit. Where's the dislike in that??? Also, I haven't seen anyone say they did not like the kit, as for one no actual kit of the F-35 really exist yet or one that we've seen. You're taking some of the skepticism here "way out of context".


If the KittyHawk F-35 is at least as decent as the F-94, I'll be ok with that. But until then, I'm (as well as others) skeptical with good reason. A new kit maker on the block with just one kit under their belt has established NO real track record of quality or accuracy yet. It does not matter if it was going to be an F-35 or a P-38; the skepticism would be the same.

Yeah, not sure why they went the route of PE consoles. The detail is so soft and shallow, surely they could have tooled the consoles in injection form. Look at newer Hasegawa and Tamiya 48th kits; the console detail is quite nice and "3 Dimensional"; contrary to PE or even the "gimmicky" color PE sets, which are anything but realistic.

Mike V

[Whitey]

I like seeing new kits...no matter the subject.

As for the "B" model. Good choice to go with. Two of the 'prototype' "B"s just departed Pax River this past week heading to Eglin to join with the joint training squadron down there. Outwardly speaking, what you see it what you get when it comes to the "B". At this point in the game the production version is not going to come off the line with a different tail configuration or intakes that are radically redesigned.

Was there ever an XF-35B, YF-35B? No. It's been an F-35B from the start. "X" and "Y" designations are of a by gone era.

[TANK]

Originally Posted by Viper Enforcer

Don't even know where you're getting "dislike" from. Like I said, I am not impressed with an animated rendering, so will be waiting till the plastic is in hand before making a judgment on the overall kit. Where's the dislike in that???

As I said, not so much here but do a search for the announcement and look at the responses: why a F-35, I want this version of a F-35, why not this type of aircraft. Doesn't sound like support or like but more like dislike to me, no? Now I am not saying we need to run around saying sweet Jesus we have been saved by the F-35B kit but until they give us a stinker we should be maybe a little more open minded to what they can do.

[Viper Enforcer]

Just because someone prefers a certain variant of a subject, does not necessarily mean they don't like that current version that’s available. Some guys want the B version of the F-94, but does not mean they "dislike" the C version, or thereof. You're mistaking preference for dislike. I prefer Tamiya doing a 32nd F-4G, but that does not mean I dislike the current hard wing F-4E.

Also, being skeptical does not mean I am not being "open minded". I just prefer to wait and see what the real kit is before losing my cookies.

[KAGNEW]

hi guys

1st i am the World Wide Rep.
for:

www.Panda-Hobby.com
www.KittyHawkmodel.com

as for research on the F-94C i worked over 2 years on it. we also had the help of the USAF Wright Patterson museum.
i don't recall anyone "calling me out" at ARC.

i hope to bring out good kits that most will enjoy
thanx Glen Coleman