Zone-Five Aircraft Modeling Forums  

Go Back   Zone-Five Aircraft Modeling Forums > The Hobby Room > The Workbench

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread March 31st, 2015, 10:58 AM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default 1/48 Su-27UB Blue 52 Polar Flanker

Finally opened up the box! I have 2 UB kits stashed into one so I had to parse out everything. Both kits have all the requisite aftermarket, too. Iíll be utilizing the Eduard kit (the other is the Zhengdefu knock-off).





Getting into a little more detail, here are all the aftermarket components Iíll be using, including the Eduard Brassin included in the kit: Eduard Brassin cockpit and seats, Eduard Brassin wheels, Eduard interior and exterior photo etch, Eduard Brassin Archer, Aphid and Alamo missiles*, Eduard mask, Aires exhausts, Aires wheel bays, Quickboost flaperons, Quickboost antenna, Quickboost radome, Master metal pitot, RUST photo etch vents, Master brass static discharge vanes, Fairy Hobby vacuform canopy, and Begemot and Linden Hill decals.

*Iíve only seen one reference of this bird carrying armament and it was 2 Alamos on the intake pylons. Itís a unique arrangement so Iíll only need some of the Brassin sets, but all the pylons will be used.








Lastly, I like to be organized with my stash for the most part. I tend to keep a lot of decals in my file cabinet for easy reference, etc. In some instances I do put decal sheets in the kit boxes. This is one of those times. Lo and behold I discovered not only did I already have the Linden Hills sheet that I was hunting for, but 2 other sets as well. Between the kit decals, the Begemot sets and the newly discovered sets, Iíll be, wellÖ.set.



Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread March 31st, 2015, 10:58 AM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Really been thinking about this build and I've narrowed down some choices:

1) This will be a heavily weathered bird (per this year's Scale Model Addict contest theme)
2) The weathering will be winterized
3) I'll be doing a full meal deal build, starting from Eduard's Limited kit
4) It'll be Blue 52 with some weathering borrowed from Blues 41 and 51.
5) I might build with a snowy base but only enter the model to keep it in the air category (unless the snowy base is permitted, no people or equipment.





Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread March 31st, 2015, 10:59 AM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Whipped up some free-hand fonts. What do you think? It's hard to match the color so I'm trying a few options...

Original



My re-creation

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread April 2nd, 2015, 09:38 AM
TRW80's Avatar
TRW80 TRW80 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 108
Default

Really excited to see how this thing progresses! You have just about everything one can put on a 1/48 Flanker so it should be pretty sweet!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread April 16th, 2015, 05:42 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Finally dug into the bits!!! First step was to wash all the resin to make sure the primer will stick so the parts were soaked overnight in a bowl of water with Comet then laid out to dry in the sun. There is a LOT of resin for this build. Like a LOT.





All the parts are really well detailed. The Quickboost flaperons do need rivet work done, something the kit parts actually have. I’m still going to go with the resin parts because the hinge edge has more detail.








Eduard included two really well detailed pilot helmets and they’re a nice touch. I think I’ll rest them on the seats.




The Aires exhaust nozzles are incredible. There are even raised rivets on the outer layer of feathers! Although comparing them to the walk around images, a couple more minor rivet lines need to be added.




One thing Eduard does NOT include in the box is a resin combing, rather they rely on a poorly shaped and detailed photo etch piece. I took a good look at the Wolfpack piece from the stash and compared it to the Aires piece from the single-seater pit and the latter won out.



Lastly, I found a reference of Blue 52 with a single Alamo C mounted on the intake pylon, so again Eduard’s Brassin saves the day. AMAZING detail…almost like it’s a mini kit itself…



Speaking of armament, the kit pylons are crap so not only will I be using the ones provided in the Brassin sets (I’m pulling from other Alamo and Archer sets) but I’ll have to mix and match PIECES of the kit pylons because Eduard doesn’t supply matching “pre-pylon” mounts. Regardless, I laid out all the pylon upgrades according to design along with the placement of the Alamos.





The Eduard cockpit parts and Aires nose wheel bay have these blocks on them that need to be cut off. Normally I wouldn’t worry about it but even with the barest of dry fitting it’s apparent space is needed.





Radome wise, the shape of the resin part is spot on but alignment with the kit parts is off. Some fix its will need to happen there for sure.




As a tool use note, I’ve been using the really thin photo etch saws to cut the resin off the pour stubs, but it’s a bit flimsy so I slid the saw into the blade handle with an old blade as support.



Lastly, I took a good look at all the main plastic parts and examined where new panel lines need to be scribed or old ones filled, where I need to make cuts to fit the resin parts and piled up all the parts that need rivets. I measured the distance on the kit rivets and while they may not be scale accurate, I figured I’d at least match as best I could with the new lines.











This is where the trusty RB Productions Rivet-R tool comes in handy, specifically the 1mm rivet wheel set (one for long lines, one for corners).



The last couple pics here are the awesome Master metal pitot and the AMUR photo etch grills.


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread April 17th, 2015, 09:16 AM
galileo1's Avatar
galileo1 galileo1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Maryland - USA
Posts: 1,648
Default

Man, that's a LOT of AM parts. I don't think I could stay motivated long enough to actually complete a project with this much AM. I do look forward to seeing your progress with this.
__________________
Rob


"3 - 2 - 1...Fight's on"

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/robertCarvallo/1-2.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread April 17th, 2015, 09:46 AM
Adriano Adriano is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 365
Default

Well this is going to be epic...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread April 21st, 2015, 11:25 AM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

It’s funny, I look back at this past week and think I really haven’t done much on this project, then I look at the pictures! Every little step makes a big difference and I might just be getting to the major building sooner than I realize!

First up, I started riveting! The horizontal and vertical stabilizers were first up and assembled. There were a few lines that needed to be scribed as well as small access panels.





The verticals were a little more complex so I made a new scribing template for the access panels.





The lower fins also don’t come with the larger rivet markings so I used Hasegawa’s .75mm rivet punch tool.




The ‘stabes are looking the part already.



Since the elevators are going to be drooped, the hinges need some extension work. It’s a little tricky trying to figure out curves and length by just dry fitting all the pieces, so an approximation took effect. Once the fins and fuselage pieces are assembled it should be easier to trim and fit the parts.




Not only are there new lines to be scribed, some need to be removed so I filled them with putty and began sanding smooth.





I also started scribing the new lines on the wings.




While I was at it I sanded down the ejector pin marks on the inside of the intakes.



So something funny also cropped up and it’s a bit of a hump. The wings are bent on both the top and bottom fuselage pieces. It’s probably my fault for packing the box so tight. I glued some steel rods into the bottom piece and it helped but there’s not enough room for them in the top section. I’ll have to work carefully with some heat from my desk lamp to reshape.





Lastly, Flankerman Ken over at ARC shared that the nose gear door inset shape is wrong, so I’ll be re-sculpting that.



I also trimmed all the blocks off the resin pieces….still a huge pile!!



That process included cutting apart the pieces I need from the kit pylons.

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread April 25th, 2015, 11:39 AM
DemonLarkham's Avatar
DemonLarkham DemonLarkham is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northeastern NJ
Posts: 131
Send a message via AIM to DemonLarkham Send a message via MSN to DemonLarkham Send a message via Yahoo to DemonLarkham Send a message via Skype™ to DemonLarkham
Default

You're a brave man Nick... Love that riveting...
__________________

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread April 30th, 2015, 11:35 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Thanks! The rivets are the easy part
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Unread May 3rd, 2015, 09:22 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

A few minor updates from the past couple weeks. It’s been a little slow on the modeling front because I’ve been working on installing some art for a big show (see here: http://www.cosmosis.squarespace.com). BUT I was able to find 10/15 minutes here and there. The easy stuff was getting the Alamos together. The detail is just stunning on these in this scale. I really hope Eduard steps up and releases some 1/72 Brassin sets like this.





The cockpit started getting some attention as well. I almost forgot to cut out the area to accommodate the Fairy Hobby canopy when I put the Aires combing in place! Oops. I also added the photo etch pieces to the fuselage side of the canopy system. And since the cockpit pieces are pretty easy to piece together, I went ahead and did that, too





The new wheels bays from Aires are really great in terms of detail, but they are a mess and a half to get into place. The front of the wheel well section is OK, but the main channels require a LOT of cut outs and alignment. I still need to fill some gaps and add some reinforcement pieces on the inside.





Another set of steps that easy to work on separately are the intakes. Once the rivets were complete I filled the seam with some CA, to be sanded later, and added in all the photo etch from both Eduard and AMUR. The AMUR vents/intakes, etc don’t quite fit over the Academy lines so I had to fill the plastic with Tamiya putty. They will be sanded flush so the vents stick out soon.

















That’s all for now! Gotta focus on 2 commissions. This will be worked on during the in between/drying stages of the others :P
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread May 11th, 2015, 01:55 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Every small amount of progress keeps adding up. This update shows that I added about half of the AMUR photo etch pieces so far. The front section of the cannon PE plate snapped off (and didnít fit quite right) but otherwise Iím OK with it. I also cut out a section of the canopy hinge and added the rear pilot instrument panel hood. Also dropped in the airbrake.





Wheel bay progress. These things are a big pain, especially the main wheel bays. The nose gear bay was a breeze howeverÖ





Primed the pit, detailed the flaperons, and started adding the spacer to the radome.





Lastly, finished detailing the Alamos and primed them. I used some tubing in the nozzles for a little extra detail. The black primer is great because none of the detail is lost.



Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread May 11th, 2015, 03:00 PM
hornet78's Avatar
hornet78 hornet78 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Scottsdale, Az
Posts: 2,302
Default

This will be fun to watch! keep It commin


Jim
__________________

Fear the Bones

A good friend will bail you out of jail, a great friend will ask "How did we get caught?"

On the Bench
1/350 IJN Nagato
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread May 17th, 2015, 07:59 AM
Girolamo's Avatar
Girolamo Girolamo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 340
Default

nice job
__________________
Girolamo Lorusso
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 11:41 AM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

Another week has gone by with many minor updates. Finished up the lower wings…and figured I disconnect them while I was working on the wheel bays. They should be easy enough to pop back in place once she goes together.



Also finished the riveting process…which wasn’t as bad as I thought it’d be. Tedious, but not bad.




Finished adding the wheelbays.




Worked on the canopy hinge by re-adding the PE plate to the new piece of styrene and puttied in place.




Lastly, added the spacers to the radome and added to the upper fuselage. There will be a touch of putty and sanding but the shapes match, which is more important.



Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 01:32 PM
hornet78's Avatar
hornet78 hornet78 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Scottsdale, Az
Posts: 2,302
Default

OOOO whatcha goin do about that nose to fuselage step? Wouldn't want to be you right about now LOL... An idea may be to detach the nose, mate it to the top fuselage, do the same with the bottom then deal with the gap in the fuselage??? As it is now you have to sand down the nose which will alter the contour, or float in putty on the fuselage. Both of which (I) wouldn't want to try or do... Watching with interest

Jim
__________________

Fear the Bones

A good friend will bail you out of jail, a great friend will ask "How did we get caught?"

On the Bench
1/350 IJN Nagato
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 03:28 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

I test fitted the bottom fuselage before I mounted the radome to the top. The curvatures match but there will be a *minor* seam gap which I'll fill with small wedges of plastic stock.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 03:55 PM
titan8251's Avatar
titan8251 titan8251 is offline
Too many kits....
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California, MD
Posts: 1,321
Default

wow that is a lot of Aftermarket lol. it is looking really good man. Can't wait to see it finished.

Andy
__________________
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
George S. Patton


On the Bench:
Eduard 1/144 Mig 21 MF
Revell 1/32 BF109-G10
Hasegawa 1/200 C-40A Clipper

At some point:
Monogram B-25 turned into a PBJ-1
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 07:59 PM
MickyG's Avatar
MickyG MickyG is offline
Avid Kit Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,480
Default

This is looking very, very nice. And the rivets... Just amazing!

Jim, I'm not seeing this step you mention? Am I not looking hard enough at that last pic?
__________________
Currently working on: Too many to list... Someday I hope to complete a kit or two.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread May 19th, 2015, 11:10 PM
nicholassagan nicholassagan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 149
Default

yeah im not exactly sure what jim means. i kinda did exactly what he was suggesting
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.